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Post by RyAn on Jul 4, 2004 21:02:37 GMT -5
I know I am not the most popular guy here because of views and opinions lately..But this I know most of us have one common enemy which is The insurance company, because we know without insurance a show can't run at a venue...So I am urging anyone out there, start a petition supporting the idea of the Ont. Gov't to interven and create something that would make it possible for the Gov't to regulate insurance prices for events like a Pro wrestling show.....
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Post by angrey fan on Jul 16, 2004 12:05:50 GMT -5
for once i'll agree with ya ryan,the insurance for a wrestling show in ontario is way out of fucking hand,it sucks not having an event in your area and i hate to go to queerbec just to see one.
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Post by The Hammer on Jul 16, 2004 13:50:43 GMT -5
Guys, this is the most ridiculous thing about sports/entertainment in all of Canada. When I trained at Hart Bros in Calgary, the Boxing/Wrestling Commisioner, Laurie Mills (male), treated the wrestlers and promoters like Gods.
He seemed to go out of his way for us and I just can't see why Hay"ass"i can't do the same. When I got my first licence 11 years ago, there was another commissioner in power...that means Ken's been there for over ten years. I think he should be close to retirement, and if not, we should start a petition to have him outed (not as a fag, as we all know about that) as Commish.
I don't even know if the insurance has anything to do with him, I just don't like him...LOL
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Diabolique
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WTF do you want?
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Post by Diabolique on Jul 16, 2004 15:43:49 GMT -5
petition time  |
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Post by ed gervais on Jul 16, 2004 15:56:13 GMT -5
NO
run hot shows and donate all the MONEY
to the CHILDRENS HOSPITAL
like to see go to court.
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Post by Mike on Jul 16, 2004 16:42:27 GMT -5
Guys, this is the most ridiculous thing about sports/entertainment in all of Canada. When I trained at Hart Bros in Calgary, the Boxing/Wrestling Commisioner, Laurie Mills (male), treated the wrestlers and promoters like Gods. He seemed to go out of his way for us and I just can't see why Hay"ass"i can't do the same. When I got my first licence 11 years ago, there was another commissioner in power...that means Ken's been there for over ten years. I think he should be close to retirement, and if not, we should start a petition to have him outed (not as a fag, as we all know about that) as Commish. I don't even know if the insurance has anything to do with him, I just don't like him...LOL and I dont like seeing a cock every time you post, please change your avitar. |
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Post by RyAn on Jul 16, 2004 21:02:22 GMT -5
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Post by Emanuel Melo on Jul 16, 2004 21:31:19 GMT -5
Hey Ryan, the link is wrong. |
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Post by Diabolique on Jul 16, 2004 23:35:47 GMT -5
*scratches head* what did you do Pook? lol. It says something like the pending petition has already been activated blah blah blah...need some help?  |
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Post by Ryan on Jul 17, 2004 10:44:52 GMT -5
Ok I got the right link now it's www.petitionOnline.com/Rd12xM26/... There I hope that doesn't create any confusion with the other so please help me save our business.... |
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Post by Guest on Jul 17, 2004 16:33:16 GMT -5
Ryan,
What you are proposing, and it's premise, are very noble. However, the Ontario Athletics Commission has absolutely NOTHING to do with the decisions made regarding ANY form of insurance. It has been the individual insurance carriers who have chosen to drop wrestling as a risk category.
Even the Financial Services Bureau can not step in on this one. Here is the dilemna: insurance IS available IF it can be found - but most carriers are requiring a premium of anywhere from $780 - $10,000 (yep...Thats 10 grand!!) PER SHOW!!!! IF a Promoter can not afford these premiums, that becomes 'the problem of the promoter' as, even though nobody can afford these rates - there IS a rate being offered for coverage. Therefore, the FSB can not step in and attempt to force carriers to underwrite, as they (the offering carriers) are already offering a rate - howbeit out of reach and affordability.
To make a long story short.....we are fubared!!!
So while your petition makes total sense to help the business - you are sending it to the wrong people. There is absolutely NOTHING that Ken Hayashi or the Athletics Commission can do in this case.
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Post by Diabolique on Jul 17, 2004 18:09:20 GMT -5
"GUEST" what is your name? just curious...
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Post by The Hammer on Jul 18, 2004 12:12:26 GMT -5
Well, that's mt fault then, as I directed it towards Hayashi. I just assumed that with it being such an obscure form of entertainment, that it would be regulated more closely by a distinct group.
I was wrong, not Ryan, I just figured if I directed something negative towards Hayashi, no one would mind, and someone might know the proper person and mention it.
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Post by Mike OShea on Jul 18, 2004 13:15:19 GMT -5
Hammer you are right Hayashi is the guy to direct this towards because he could get his boss the Minister of Consumer and Comercial Affairs to propose a change to the Law involving Insurance. He is the Athletic Commissioner that regulates wrestling and boxing and he is supposed to try to help the business and better it not just regulate it.
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Post by Guest on Jul 18, 2004 14:25:03 GMT -5
Mike Shea is correct in stating that The Athletics Commission could have its covering ministry, The Ministry of Commercial and Business Services, propose a "change to the laws regarding insurance"...BUT ....they can do NOTHING about rate changes or anything related to insurance rates. The best that they can do is eliminate the requirement for liability insurance for shows.
That is under the umbrella of the Financial Services Bureau or Financial Services Commission; a totally unrelated branch of government. Unfortunately, this branch of government is in a tough position because they generally only step in when there is NO COVERAGE made availalbe to consumers. In the case of wrestling, as I stated, there IS coverage being offered at astronomical rates. Due to the fact that most promoters can not afford the 'per-show' rate being offered by the underwriters/carriers, it becomes a case of the onus falling on the promoter to raise the capital to pay the rate.....
A bullshit system? Maybe. But that's what we are up against.
Chris
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