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Post by Super Machine on Jun 29, 2008 12:40:56 GMT -5
A bizarre incident took place Lastnight at the Hall of Fame dinner in Waterloo, IA.
Bret Hart was giving a speech, accepting the Hall of Fame honor for father Stu. During the speech, Hart noted Greg Oliver of SlamWrestling, who was there to be given the Jim Melby Memorial Award for wrestling journalism along with writing partner Steve Johnson. Hart went off on Oliver in his speech, and started talking about the sacrifices the wrestlers have made and loved ones lost in the business and said that one of us doesn't deserve to be here and said either he goes or I go. Several of the older wrestlers in attendance gave Hart a standing ovation. Oliver didn't leave, although the report we got was that Johnson did leave to try and diffuse a bad situation.
Hart eventually left when Oliver didn't, and many of the wrestlers left with him and it created an ugly vibe. Hart hasn't liked Oliver dating back to Oliver's book, "Pro Wrestling Hall of Fame: The Canadians," which listed him No. 14 in the list of greatest Canadian wrestlers ever. The book did acknowledge him as the best known of all the Canadian wrestlers but said "Hart can hardly claim to be the best ever."
The situation was videotaped and I presume the tape will get around over the next few days. We hope to have more details forthcoming.
Courtesy of the Wrestling Observer.
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Post by canadianbadass on Jun 29, 2008 12:48:17 GMT -5
whaaaaaaaa... Glad Greg stood his ground and didnt leave, Fuck Bret...
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Post by gordo on Jun 29, 2008 13:42:48 GMT -5
I'd like to hear Oliver's Jim Melby Memorial Award acceptance speech which presumaby came after Hart had left.
If the situation went down as described it certainly makes Hart look like a dick for going into business for himself while representing his father.
I haven't read Oliver's book that Bret is apparently so pissed off about, but out of curiosity... Where did Stu Hart rank on the list of Greatest Canadians?
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Post by gordo on Jun 29, 2008 13:47:46 GMT -5
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Post by juniorjulie on Jun 29, 2008 18:02:02 GMT -5
I'd like to hear Oliver's Jim Melby Memorial Award acceptance speech which presumaby came after Hart had left. If the situation went down as described it certainly makes Hart look like a dick for going into business for himself while representing his father. I haven't read Oliver's book that Bret is apparently so pissed off about, but out of curiosity... Where did Stu Hart rank on the list of Greatest Canadians? Stu Hart came in at #10. Just letting you know. |
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Post by Super Machine on Jun 29, 2008 18:24:24 GMT -5
I own the book which by the way is an excellent read if you want to know about the History of Wrestling in this great Country we live In.
Here by the way is the top 20 according to Greg's book.
1. Whipper Billy Watson
2. Yvon Robert
3. Killer Kowalski
4. Mad Dog Vachon
5. Earl McCready
6. Gene Kiniski
7. Roddy Piper
8. Sky Low Low/Little Beaver
9. Ben & Mike Sharpe
10. Stu Hart
11. Abdullah The Butcher
12. John & Chris Tolos
13. Stomper Gouldie
14. Bret Hart
15. Jack Taylor
16. Johnny Rougeau
17. Don Eagle
18. Johnny Powers
19. Rick Martel
20. Waldo Von Erich
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Post by The Donkey on Jun 29, 2008 18:58:57 GMT -5
This is not the first time I have heard of Bret Hart going out of his way to make Greg Oliver or Slam Wrestling look bad. He seems to care alot about Mr. Oliver's opinion.
You know I enjoy watching Bret Hart preform as wrestler. I a big fan of his. But he just has to learn when to stop. I don't know if any of you have read Bret's book. It's long, very long. Let's put it this way. If he stopped "putting himself over" the book could have been 50 pages long instead of the 400+ pages.
I have had the pleasure of meeting Mr. Oliver once or twice. I even shared a ride with him to Niagara in the Melo-Mobile. Nice guy, and a walking encyclopedia of wrestling information. His books are foutians of information. I personally can't sit down and read the book straight through. It's kind of like encyclopedia's you look up the info you want.
Greg wrote the book "The Pro Wrestlin Hall of Fame: The Canadian's", and listed the wrestlers in what he considered to be in the right place. Hey Bret got listed at 14. Bret didn't like the fact that he got listed number 14. So he goes off at an awards ceremony. Yeah thats classy! Have a little respect Bret. And at least for your father.
And I like the fact the Greg didn't bother to post anything about the situation in his article. That was very professional of him. Maybe Bret could learn something from Greg.
P.S.
Congrats on the award Greg
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Post by gregoliver on Jun 29, 2008 19:30:41 GMT -5
Thanks for the notes, guys.
Still trying to distill it all.
Most of all, I'm just sad that someone carries around so much hatred for so long. It's not healthy.
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Post by canadianbadass on Jun 29, 2008 19:33:29 GMT -5
Maybe the hate is what caused his 400 strokes... either way Greg you done us locals proud to get the award.
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Post by buryme on Jun 29, 2008 20:26:47 GMT -5
I hate Bret.....Good job standing up to that idiot.
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Post by Emanuel Melo on Jun 29, 2008 21:50:11 GMT -5
Good for you Greg, Bret just continues making himself look like an ass. Congrats on your well deserved award.
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Post by The Blue Angel... on Jun 30, 2008 7:54:17 GMT -5
...the fuck?! that's BALLS man! Lately, the more I hear about hart as a person the less respect I have for him or the way he carries himself. He sounds like a bitchy queen. Congrats on the award Greg and good for you for staying!  |
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Post by jimmihellbent on Jul 4, 2008 11:05:56 GMT -5
more then meets the eye......
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Post by jorjor on Jul 4, 2008 11:16:25 GMT -5
more then meets the eye...... Transformers, Robots in disguise |
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Post by jimmihellbent on Jul 4, 2008 11:37:47 GMT -5
greg is a robot
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